trunk and top not opening and relays in the back are cover with sand and corrosion

[hawkeye372]

I noticed that I should open the trunk/top atleast once a week. Otherwise my trunk takes either a little longer to cycle open or sticks sometimes. This is just the trunk mainly not the top. So I make a mental note to open the trunk at least once or twice a week. Guess its those nasty gremlins again.

i havent drive my 04xlr in a while due to an accident and it also been in some intense rain and im ready to fix it and the top and trunk will not open .The trunk unlocks with the key and with the FOB and i can open it manually but it will NOT go up automatically

after reading almost every forum about water getting in the trunk box (which i didnt knew we have to check that) i check it and found NO water but found a lot sand dust and one big relay that has a purple lock cover in corrosion and i barely touch it and the cables broke as show in the picture ..

Do i have to replace everything ???What can i do to fix this pigtails ...... and is this means that all this was cover in water or can somebody tell me wat might have happen.

also the dash keeps saying ""SERVICE RIDE CONTROL " and "" NOT GO MORE THAN 80MPH"""

thanks!!
your information would be greatly appreciated ,

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[xlr&ls1]

dealers response

I trying to get the 04 xlr back on the road. So i purchase the susp.module and TCM module took it to cadillac and told me the pump is bad so they cant finish the convertible part....they want 1900$ for the pump +labor n i have to buy it from them if not they wont install it.*So since they told me they only installed the suspension module ,i belive it will fix the ABS and the T/C light but i DIDNT, and the car still drives very rough on d ground like no shocks (i have 20"wheels on it ) after 30mph it feels the engine forcing itself to go higher ,however the "do not exeed 80mph still on dash"
so i talk to the mechanic and he mention the EBCM it could be bad ..he's not sure.. and that takes away the abs and the t/c
What is the EBCM its it a part i can replace myself ..???*
Is it driving rough becauseof that???
Can i purchase the convertible pump and change it myself???

 

[ccclarke]

I trying to get the 04 xlr back on the road. So i purchase the susp.module and TCM module took it to cadillac and told me the pump is bad so they cant finish the convertible part....they want 1900$ for the pump +labor n i have to buy it from them if not they wont install it.*So since they told me they only installed the suspension module ,i belive it will fix the ABS and the T/C light but i DIDNT, and the car still drives very rough on d ground like no shocks (i have 20"wheels on it ) after 30mph it feels the engine forcing itself to go higher ,however the "do not exeed 80mph still on dash"
so i talk to the mechanic and he mention the EBCM it could be bad ..he's not sure.. and that takes away the abs and the t/c
What is the EBCM its it a part i can replace myself ..???*
Is it driving rough becauseof that???
Can i purchase the convertible pump and change it myself???

1) Has this vehicle EVER worked for you? If not, is it a salvage title (ie: flood damage)? You appear to have multiple failures. (Top, Suspension, Possible Ignition, Fuel Injection or Sensor malfunction.) What codes does the tech observe when he runs a scan?
2) You obviously still have a suspension issue, which is why the car's ride is degraded and the speed limitation message is displayed.
3) The tech should be able to tell you if the EBCM (Electronic Brake Control Module) is defective. You can replace it, but I recommend you have a Tech 2 available if you do.
4) You can purchase hydraulic pumps online for the same price the dealer pays. You will also need a set of new O-rings for the hydraulic lines when they're reconnected to the hydraulic manifold. My dealer did the installation but only warrantied their labor. I saved enough on the pump to pay for the labor.

Again, you'll need a Tech 2 to finish the job properly and test the system.


CCC

 

[xlr&ls1]

1) Has this vehicle EVER worked for you? If not, is it a salvage title (ie: flood damage)? You appear to have multiple failures. (Top, Suspension, Possible Ignition, Fuel Injection or Sensor malfunction.) What codes does the tech observe when he runs a scan?
2) You obviously still have a suspension issue, which is why the car's ride is degraded and the speed limitation message is displayed.
3) The tech should be able to tell you if the EBCM (Electronic Brake Control Module) is defective. You can replace it, but I recommend you have a Tech 2 available if you do.
4) You can purchase hydraulic pumps online for the same price the dealer pays. You will also need a set of new O-rings for the hydraulic lines when they're reconnected to the hydraulic manifold. My dealer did the installation but only warrantied their labor. I saved enough on the pump to pay for the labor.

Again, you'll need a Tech 2 to finish the job properly and test the system.


CCC[/QUOTE]



i purchased the car as is from auction so its salvege..the car was t-bone drive side only fix the door n quater panel n window and thats it...but previous days of auction we got intense rain in houston tx and after took the car home and after reading the forums i discover all about the modules and pump.....so i been trying to get it back to the street and enjoy it..

 

[xlr&ls1]

WoW its a miracle..

I just decided to look a the fuse #1 ABS FUSE 10AMP and it was blown... i replace it and right away the ABS LIGHT AND THE T/C WERE GONE

And all the SERVICE VEHICLE SOON,DO NOT EXEEDD 80MPH,SERVICER TRAC CONTROL AND SERVICE ABS ON THE DIC ARE GONE only have the low oil , which it never show before ...

I was about to spend 1500$ on the abs module with the labor because it was bad ACcORDING to CADILLAC certified mechanics ... when it was just a 10 amp fuse

Im going to testdrive the car tomrw hoping the lights wont come back again......

 

[hawkeye372]

I just decided to look a the fuse #1 ABS FUSE 10AMP and it was blown... i replace it and right away the ABS LIGHT AND THE T/C WERE GONE

And all the SERVICE VEHICLE SOON,DO NOT EXEEDD 80MPH,SERVICER TRAC CONTROL AND SERVICE ABS ON THE DIC ARE GONE only have the low oil , which it never show before ...

I was about to spend 1500$ on the abs module with the labor because it was bad ACcORDING to CADILLAC certified mechanics ... when it was just a 10 amp fuse

Im going to testdrive the car tomrw hoping the lights wont come back again......

Simple fix. And not that expensive either. But a headache of trying to figure it out right.


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[Stella]

I just decided to look a the fuse #1 ABS FUSE 10AMP and it was blown... i replace it and right away the ABS LIGHT AND THE T/C WERE GONE

And all the SERVICE VEHICLE SOON,DO NOT EXEEDD 80MPH,SERVICER TRAC CONTROL AND SERVICE ABS ON THE DIC ARE GONE only have the low oil , which it never show before ...

I was about to spend 1500$ on the abs module with the labor because it was bad ACcORDING to CADILLAC certified mechanics ... when it was just a 10 amp fuse

Im going to testdrive the car tomrw hoping the lights wont come back again......

WHAT..... I guess you never checked the basics? I would bring it back to the dealer you brought it to and let them know. Certified huh? I would check your oil might need to top it off ? Well at least you figured it out without wasting a lot of dough.

 

[05 GRAND DADDY]

That great! But keep in mind something most likely caused that fuse to blow, so if it blows again there a short somewhere!
Sorry didn't mean to be BAD NEWS!
Hopefully I'm not???


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" 05 GRAND DADDY"

 

[ccclarke]

That great! But keep in mind something most likely caused that fuse to blow, so if it blows again there a short somewhere!
Sorry didn't mean to be BAD NEWS!
Hopefully I'm not???


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" 05 GRAND DADDY"

The fuse was probably blown when the compartment flooded. The fuse should have been the second thing checked- after a thorough visual inspection was conducted. Obviously, the dealership he's using doesn't have certified XLR techs on site. I'm lucky. My local shop has THREE!

Have the tech produce a detailed summary of the remaining DTCs, and begin troubleshooting them one by one after prioritizing them by severity.

Replacing the EBCM would have little effect on the suspension problem described; it is part of the Traction Control and Stabilitrac System. Sounds like the tech is guessing instead of troubleshooting. Mention GM course #10446.55B and ask him if he ever took it.

CCC

 

[xlr&ls1]

TRIYING TO FIND A TECH II PROGRAMMER

HI GUYS

I Been enjoying driving this xlr alot, i been droping the top down manually takes almost 10 minutes or less but its fun driving it .

im trying to get all working by the push of a button
so its got a new ,
suspension module
top module
new trunk seal (no more leaking when washing it)

the pump 1300$ online 1 yr warranty , however i find a place in california that sells them ""remanufactured"" for 650$ 1yr warranty so i purchased that one

i replace everything my self including the pump, its fairly easy with the proper tools and lots of picture and videos phone

NOW HERE COMES THE PROBLEM
this car has a salvage title

so caddillac dealers wont even help me ,,, so wat i do now


should i tke it to MAIKHEIK CHEVROLET , could they do the repairs


or take it to this ex-cadillac worker that open his own shop and he says he is been working on xlr's before , but he dont reprogramm the top, he calls his buddy that has a tech II his charge is 300$$ + 100$ for the pump oil =400$$$

would this guy be better or CHEVROLET DEALER can do it ?????????????

 

[hawkeye372]

Let me say this. Everyone can probably agree with me here. I would make sure that there is a certified xlr guy where ever you take your ride. These are rare cars and I personally wouldn't take my car to a non Cadillac xlr tech. Some people/dealerships might say they know about our cars but after they tear them apart. In the long run they really don't. So moral of story. Make sure that the person is familiar and certified in working on our cars.

 

[05 GRAND DADDY]

HI GUYS

I Been enjoying driving this xlr alot, i been droping the top down manually takes almost 10 minutes or less but its fun driving it .

im trying to get all working by the push of a button
so its got a new ,
suspension module
top module
new trunk seal (no more leaking when washing it)

the pump 1300$ online 1 yr warranty , however i find a place in california that sells them ""remanufactured"" for 650$ 1yr warranty so i purchased that one

i replace everything my self including the pump, its fairly easy with the proper tools and lots of picture and videos phone

NOW HERE COMES THE PROBLEM
this car has a salvage title

so caddillac dealers wont even help me ,,, so wat i do now


should i tke it to MAIKHEIK CHEVROLET , could they do the repairs


or take it to this ex-cadillac worker that open his own shop and he says he is been working on xlr's before , but he dont reprogramm the top, he calls his buddy that has a tech II his charge is 300$$ + 100$ for the pump oil =400$$$

would this guy be better or CHEVROLET DEALER can do it ?????????????

Because I have no real close Cadillac dealer I use a Chevy Dealer in Gettysburg about only 15 minute ( also $85 compared to 105$ hr labor cost) but they relearn my top! I'd believe that as long as they can get the relearn direction I would not know why they can't do it. I'm lucky that they have a guy that works on Cadillac's though.

 

[XLRATING]

I didn't known a Cadillac dealer wouldn't work on salvage title cars (guess they checked out the "branded title" section on the service records, otherwise how'd they even know that), but I'd be concerned it's a GM dealer thing generally so you might want to be sure the Chevy dealer will work on it before going. Maybe do a random call without giving your name because I sure wouldn't tell them it's salvage.

Only time I saw a dealer turn someone away was a XLR with a taped on tarp for the hood, flooded the top/suspension brains but kept driving so he destroyed the shocks & the rear end was dropped down - & the guy came in only to have a check engine light checked. They turned him away because the car was such a mess there was no way they could fix it satisfactorily.

(edit: I read back through this thread & previously you said the dealer would work on it but it cost more than you wanted to have to pay & they wouldn't just install the parts that you bought - maybe the dealer just took that & decided to bail on you? I know some dealers don't like working on these to begin with so they might be happy to take any reason to say adios).

 

[xlr&ls1]

(edit: I read back through this thread & previously you said the dealer would work on it but it cost more than you wanted to have to pay & they wouldn't just install the parts that you bought - maybe the dealer just took that & decided to bail on you? I know some dealers don't like working on these to begin with so they might be happy to take any reason to say adios).[/QUOTE]



Ive called all caddillacs in houston and ask everyone in the service department "" do u have and cadillac xlr roadster certified mechanic""" their answer is ""all are mechanics are certified "" and thats the only answer the tell me
so i cant find one

i talk to the worker and i ask to talk to the manager and he says they dont work on BRANDED TITLES no more , its a new rule or law started this 01/2014 n they check my record and it was service on 12/2013...... he told me go to a diferent cadillac dealer or chevy dealers it dosent matter because he say the xlr is th same as the corvette

so i called different cadillac dealer in houston , ask the service guy, do u work on xlr, but its salvage, and he say no they dont work on salvage titles, and they have to pull a record history on the car before they put their hands on, then he gave me the phone # of this independent ex cadillac worker shop....


so i call CHEVROLET and make an appt next week , and i ask them do u work on XLR's , they guy told me they have all software and technology to work on them ,

but i dont know if to trust them(chevrolet dealer150$ to start) or take it to the ex caddillac worker shop that he open, who says he work on them for adn he want 400$

 

[ccclarke]

Your posts aren't adding up. A dealer worked on your car (bad job, but they worked on it) and now you say they won't work on it due to a salvage title? Houston is a big city; there are other dealers you can take it to. You're not asking them to buy the car, just repair a sub-system. Escalate your concerns up the chain if you aren't satisfied with the Service Department's work or concern for servicing a GM vehicle.

Don't waste your time or money taking it to a Chevy dealer or a tech with a friend with a Tech 2. UNLESS they guarantee they can do the job for a set price. Otherwise you're going to spend far more for labor alone than if you had taken it to a certified Cadillac XLR tech in the first place. Have you ever heard of a Corvette owner taking his car to a Buick dealer for repairs?

Caveat emptor,

CC

 

[Stella]

I love that the dealer says yah all of are mechanics are certified. "Would hope so but XLR CERTIFIED?" Problem is these cars are getting older and the mechanics that got specifically trained on them might have moved on or no longer work there. Something like the top controls are specific to the xlr. A gm mechanic is not gonna know the ins and outs of the system. I agree with CC Dallas is a big city. You should call around a ask specifically for a certified xlr tech. Don't tell them about the salvaged title that shouldn't matter anyways. Sounds like the previous tech just had you replace everything and see what happens without pinpointing the problem which in return is just costing you lots of money. By hooking it to a tech 2 that should be able to narrow down the problem? What's communicating and working and what's not?
Worst case scenario road cruise and give CC a visit he sounds very knowledgable And honest!Good luck!

 

[jimkroeker]

certified techs

l have been looking for a certified XLR tech in the Ft. Myers area. None to be found. The local dealer gives me the same old saw, "all our techs are certified". So l contacted Cadillac and asked them where l might find a certified XLR mechanic. Here is the response l received from Cadillac.





Service Request Number: 71- 1325685929
Customer Relationship Specialist: April


Dear Jim,


Thank you for contacting the Cadillac Customer Assistance Center. We appreciate your time writing us regarding your interest in looking for a certified XLR Technician.



We sincerely wish that we can answer all your questions point by point and tell you what are causing these issues to your vehicle or give you an assessment of the likelihood of these concerns from happening or not happening again. However, we hope you understand, we are not a technical assistance center.



The Service Departments of our certified dealers have been established by GM as a comprehensive resource for all service information concerning bulletins, troubleshooting steps and technical details. We rely on the dealerships when it comes to technical or mechanical concerns. They have the tools, equipment, training, and expertise to determine cause of failure and to provide repair recommendations.


I took the liberty in locating dealership using your City and State address that may help you with your concerns:


VAL WARD CADILLAC, INC.
12626 TAMIAMI TRAIL S
FORT MYERS, FL 33907-3824
Phone: (239) 939-2212


DEVOE CADILLAC
4100 TAMIAMI TRAIL N
NAPLES, FL 34103-3197
Phone: (239) 261-1234



If you have any product or dealer related questions or concerns, feel free to contact our Cadillac Customer Assistance Center at 1-800-458-8006. Customer Relationship Specialists are available Monday through Saturday from 8:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m., Eastern Time.




Again, thank you for contacting Cadillac.


Sincerely,


The Cadillac Consumer Support Team




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[xlr&ls1]

XLR CERTIFIED , no such thing anymore, so GIVING UP .

l have been looking for a certified XLR tech in the Ft. Myers area. None to be found. The local dealer gives me the same old saw, "all our techs are certified". So l contacted Cadillac and asked them where l might find a certified XLR mechanic. Here is the response l received from Cadillac.




ME after calling the 6 cadillacs that i have in houston, there is no such thing as xlr certified according to them ,and mostly all say they have never heard of that in the years they been in there, now after taking the car to several cadillacs they all want at least 8hrs of labor @ 90 $ an hr. up front just to look at that car thats 720$ just to start looking at it, ahh and no garantee that they will find the problem , other shop they want 10 hrs up front before they start on the car ,

 

[onalaska]

That's sad, but the XLR has been out of production for 5 years now and many of the XLR techs have moved on. The same thing happened with the Cadillac Allante when it's production ended in 1993. I wish there was a way to still track these guys down wherever they are employed now.

 

[odtekman]

Same symptoms

I purchase the suspension module and the top module clean all terminals fix them , connect the modules and wait 10minutes and then connected the battery ... but im having a few issues now...

Interior light on the rear view mirror never turns off.
Passenger door wont open corre tly rom out side..(sometimes it works sometimes it dont)
Driver door window stuck a the middle and only goes up 4" n down 4" after replacing the regulator with motor n module (but if i hot wire it it works perfect .up n down)
And all the ABS & T/C DONT GO MORE THAN 80MPH SERVICE RIDE CONTROL lighs in the intrument panel are still on ..
And of coarse top n trunk still not work

Now i havent driving it yet..because its raining.so i havent taking it to d dealer either .but i would like to if i can fix anything before cadillac charges me another arm and leg

After buying my 05 XLR a year ago I find the original registration and found it was from Florida. I've crossed my fingers ever since. We had a large storm roll through So. Cal. two days ago that really dumped upon us and the next day I started seeing the same symptoms as others posted here. Thanks to your advice I located the electronics box in the trunk, using a 2" diameter turkey baster I removed at least 20 full basters of water. Getting under the car I found the drain hose and worked out some grit and a small screw. It's drying and and I am hoping for the best. At least it wasn't full of salt and sand. It may not be a DIY type of car but I'm getting real tired of spending over a grand each time something goes haywire. By doing it myself I've got the price down to a couple of hundred. I would have to say that running water through an electronics box full of thousands of dollars worth of computer crud sounds like a design flaw to me. PS: I love the car but the top has to work or the car is useless to me.