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i am a bit intrigued on the spring setup. Retaining the stock height but fixing the non-corvette handling (keep mag ride control), what is the recommendation?

will not track my v, but am a bit disappointed as to the handling.
 
To recap, all this was done because my rear tires were breaking loose when autocross racing. The primary fix for this was to add more balance to the suspension components and add sticky tires. We'll see this weekend if the human side of this equation can keep up with the car mods. Unfortunately, the weather forecast this weekend calls for spot showers all weekend.

Perfect weather today and I won my class today by .016 seconds, so I'm still in the lead for the Season Championship. The car's still got 2 or 3 seconds more in it if I ever learn how to drive. :( I cannot say enough about how impressed I am with this setup. I've had to completely change my driving technique because the car is so much more nimble and planted. The harder I push it, it just keeps going. Last month, I was 5 seconds slower and the tires were squealing through every turn; today I only got the tires to squeal once at almost twice the speed as before.

Now comes the fine tuning. Since the lowering bolts on the rear spring are seized, to lower it, I need to get a new rear spring (probably shouldn't upgrade although a Z51 spring is not too drastic). The front is too low, so it has to be raised a little. Then I need to play with tire pressures.

Lastly, I must modify the setup once the race season is over. In town, the ride is harsh and every driveway, speed bump, and parking curb is treacherous. I've been lucky so far and haven't slammed over a pothole, yet, but when I do I already know it will be jarring. I thought leaving the mag ride shocks in would help, but I think I need to adjust the mag ride sensors to add more dampening.
 
Congrats on your win. Keep fine tuning your ride. I agree with the last paragraph. "Every driveway, pothole and speed bumps" are killers for our cars.


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Giz, how does it ride on the highway with all those suspension mods?

Highway cruising is still quite comfortable. That's why I didn't want to change the shocks. PJ doesn't notice any change at all. I do notice more feedback from the steering and when passing. Its probably more input due to lowering and low profile tires than the suspension. It's in the city (dodging potholes) where the changes are most noticeable. Bumping over just one wheel is jarring because the two are tied so rigidly together. And that front air dam is less than 2" off the ground and it scrapes on everything, speed bumps, driveways, dip in the road :squint:, everything.




I'm also redesigning my lower grille inlet.

I was doing that to prepare the car for a 3" lip splitter I'm designing/building. (It'll be on the market by Christmas :chuckle)


Unfortunately, or better yet luckily, I realized yesterday that my redesigned lower inlet serves the same purpose as the splitter, so I may not need it.

Details: I had long ago removed the hood's weatherstripping up by the windshield and my side vents are fully functional. I'm smoothing and concentrating the flow of air into the radiator, SC HX, & tranny cooler and then across the motor exiting via vents and rear hood opening. The smoothing helps direct the air where its needed; the concentrating creates a ram air effect to increase cooling. But, because the air there speeds up as opposed to the air underneath, it pulls the nose of the car down. Once the inlet design is finalized the whole front bumper will get shot with black Plasti Dip as will the lip spoiler.
 
2014 ... so far

O.K. I just scared the crap outta myself.
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As most of the MMs know the car has been down for most of the year getting headers and a new exhaust system installed. I just changed my pulley this week and got 500 miles on the exhaust so it was time for some acceleration runs. I changed the meth injection yesterday to 100% alcohol and thought I heated the tires sufficiently for my runs today. Boy was I wrong! 30, 40, 60 roll - the tires wouldn't bite. And that was rolling into 75% throttle! Tires breaking loose at 60 means too much torque. Traction control not fixing it made for a slippery 60-100 run. Stomping WOT from a standstill is going to be a nightmare.

The back story. I finished the suspension last winter with Z06 rear spring and sway bar (the ZR1 rear bar was too much). The lip splitter and rear diffuser are both stalled waiting on my fabricator to get his business in order (He still has 3 cars ahead of me with $30K+ of work each). The car went into the shop in April to install a set of D3 headers I found on eBay. BUT...the left side leaked at the head and we couldn't get D3 gaskets for it. So we decided to hand-build a set with larger 1 7/8" primaries. Somewhere along the way, I installed a few new toys on the CarPC, replaced the meth pump with one rated for pure alcohol, and installed a Corvette 1/4" Thick Aluminum Ceramic Coated Tunnel Plate with Thermal-ABS.

Meanwhile, I went to Bloomington Gold to try and negotiate with Billy Boat for a discount on an XLR Fusion axle-back muffler system. Before I could, Mike Boat hands me a flyer of their show specials and the gears in my brain went haywire. Here was a 3" diameter X crossover midpipe and matching Z06 3" Fusion axle-back for $400 less than just the XLR axle-back. My headers hadn't been started yet, so there was plenty of time to make those with a 3" collector - easy. So my discussion with Mike was about Z06 vs XLR plumbing and mounting locations. He said he'd put them on the XLR fixture and make them work. He also said they'd fixture a brand new set at their facility and ship both free to the shop that would install them. GAME ON!

The install shop (who shall remain nameless) guaranteed me a price and schedule. They missed both. I actually got the manager to sign a contract, but when I picked up the car, the headers hadn't been ceramic coated and the printed bill was $600 more than the contract. I handed a copy of the contract to the manager and the agreed amount in cash and said "Have a nice day." He tried to explain why I should pay more and I told him tontake it up with my lawyer. I did tip the welder who made my headers, but I was standing there over them two days after the promised delivery date as they tightened down the last few nut and bolts. So I wasn't happy. PJ and I had just enough time to eat, pack, and get on the road to Artomobilia.

Needless to say, there were issues. I already knew it would be 1000-2000 miles before the exhaust tone would normalize and I needed to play nice for the first 500 miles for the initial break-in. I still revved it a few times at Artomobilia :reddevil. I think it was Eric who diagnosed my car with "Anger Management issues". :laugh::laugh: By the time I got home, I realized the vacuum system was never hooked up and smelling exhaust in the cabin I found one of the O2 sensor plugs had fallen out. The vacuum lines were easy enough to fix and the install shop made quick work of finding and installing a new plug.

Still, it was loud (those that know me know I like loud, so if I say its too loud - ITS LOUD.) After putting the car on a lift and doing some troubleshooting and comparing the BB Fusion bi-modal system with OEM, I came to the conclusion that the BB is spring loaded to the open position and the springs are so strong it never really closed (quiet mode) completely. I then proceeded to create a brace that I could manually insert between the spring valves to completely close the pass through ports. PJ had peace at last. Maybe with time the springs will stretch enough to close normally. So until then, my exhaust has three modes: full open, partial bi-modal, and full closed.

The trip to Effingham for Corvette FunFest was much better. Manually closing the center exhausts made for a drone-free trip. Mike Boat was there and we talked about the fit and finish of the install and we both realized (at about the same time) that my tips are round and I ordered ovals. We had a good laugh and agreed to work something out later. He noted the sound of the exhaust was louder than he expected when revved, but idle was just like his XLR specific system.

What's next? I have an appointment Oct 6th with a new tuner, James Short, out in Kentucky. He's a few hours closer than Wait4Me and comes highly recommended. We'll see. I'll be running his tune at the Texas Mile come 24-26 October. Probably a couple 1/4 mile runs. Then Thanksgiving in Louisiana.
 
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Ya see.... I told you.....

Gizmo, didn't I tell you - You can't keep giving him the traditional pat on the head saying "There there, it'll be okay" after he throws a tantrum...lol. - Elwood needs professional HELP.....lol.

O.K. I just scared the crap outta myself.
crazy-22_files.gif
As most of the MMs know the car has been down for most of the year getting headers and a new exhaust system installed. I just changed my pulley this week and got 500 miles on the exhaust so it was time for some acceleration runs. I changed the meth injection yesterday to 100% alcohol and thought I heated the tires sufficiently for my runs today. Boy was I wrong! 30, 40, 60 roll - the tires wouldn't bite. And that was rolling into 75% throttle! Tires breaking loose at 60 means too much torque. Traction control not fixing it made for a slippery 60-100 run. Stomping WOT from a standstill is going to be a nightmare.

The back story. I finished the suspension last winter with Z06 rear spring and sway bar (the ZR1 rear bar was too much). The lip splitter and rear diffuser are both stalled waiting on my fabricator to get his business in order (He still has 3 cars ahead of me with $30K+ of work each). The car went into the shop in April to install a set of D3 headers I found on eBay. BUT...the left side leaked at the head and we couldn't get D3 gaskets for it. So we decided to hand-build a set with larger 1 7/8" primaries. Somewhere along the way, I installed a few new toys on the CarPC, replaced the meth pump with one rated for pure alcohol, and installed a Corvette 1/4" Thick Aluminum Ceramic Coated Tunnel Plate with Thermal-ABS.

Meanwhile, I went to Bloomington Gold to try and negotiate with Billy Boat for a discount on an XLR Fusion axle-back muffler system. Before I could, Mike Boat hands me a flyer of their show specials and the gears in my brain went haywire. Here was a 3" diameter X crossover midpipe and matching Z06 3" Fusion axle-back for $400 less than just the XLR axle-back. My headers hadn't been started yet, so there was plenty of time to make those with a 3" collector - easy. So my discussion with Mike was about Z06 vs XLR plumbing and mounting locations. He said he'd put them on the XLR fixture and make them work. He also said they'd fixture a brand new set at their facility and ship both free to the shop that would install them. GAME ON!

The install shop (who shall remain nameless) guaranteed me a price and schedule. They missed both. I actually got the manager to sign a contract, but when I picked up the car, the headers hadn't been ceramic coated and the printed bill was $600 more than the contract. I handed a copy of the contract to the manager and the agreed amount in cash and said "Have a nice day." He tried to explain why I should pay more and I told him tontake it up with my lawyer. I did tip the welder who made my headers, but I was standing there over them two days after the promised delivery date as they tightened down the last few nut and bolts. So I wasn't happy. PJ and I had just enough time to eat, pack, and get on the road to Artomobilia.

Needless to say, there were issues. I already knew it would be 1000-2000 miles before the exhaust tone would normalize and I needed to play nice for the first 500 miles for the initial break-in. I still revved it a few times at Artomobilia :reddevil. I think it was Eric who diagnosed my car with "Anger Management issues". :laugh::laugh: By the time I got home, I realized the vacuum system was never hooked up and smelling exhaust in the cabin I found one of the O2 sensor plugs had fallen out. The vacuum lines were easy enough to fix and the install shop made quick work of finding and installing a new plug.

Still, it was loud (those that know me know I like loud, so if I say its too loud - ITS LOUD.) After putting the car on a lift and doing some troubleshooting and comparing the BB Fusion bi-modal system with OEM, I came to the conclusion that the BB is spring loaded to the open position and the springs are so strong it never really closed (quiet mode) completely. I then proceeded to create a brace that I could manually insert between the spring valves to completely close the pass through ports. PJ had peace at last. Maybe with time the springs will stretch enough to close normally. So until then, my exhaust has three modes: full open, partial bi-modal, and full closed.

The trip to Effingham for Corvette FunFest was much better. Manually closing the center exhausts made for a drone-free trip. Mike Boat was there and we talked about the fit and finish of the install and we both realized (at about the same time) that my tips are round and I ordered ovals. We had a good laugh and agreed to work something out later. He noted the sound of the exhaust was louder than he expected when revved, but idle was just like his XLR specific system.

What's next? I have an appointment Oct 6th with a new tuner, James Short, out in Kentucky. He's a few hours closer than Wait4Me and comes highly recommended. We'll see. I'll be running his tune at the Texas Mile come 24-26 October. Probably a couple 1/4 mile runs. Then Thanksgiving in Louisiana.
 
FWIW Shortuning has a good reputation around here for LS tuning. I contacted him in the spring about an LC3, he had never done one but felt comfortable. However there was no time available. Let me know how it goes.
 
O.K. I just scared the crap outta myself.
crazy-22_files.gif
As most of the MMs know the car has been down for most of the year getting headers and a new exhaust system installed. I just changed my pulley this week and got 500 miles on the exhaust so it was time for some acceleration runs. I changed the meth injection yesterday to 100% alcohol and thought I heated the tires sufficiently for my runs today. Boy was I wrong! 30, 40, 60 roll - the tires wouldn't bite. And that was rolling into 75% throttle! Tires breaking loose at 60 means too much torque. Traction control not fixing it made for a slippery 60-100 run. Stomping WOT from a standstill is going to be a nightmare.

The back story. I finished the suspension last winter with Z06 rear spring and sway bar (the ZR1 rear bar was too much). The lip splitter and rear diffuser are both stalled waiting on my fabricator to get his business in order (He still has 3 cars ahead of me with $30K+ of work each). The car went into the shop in April to install a set of D3 headers I found on eBay. BUT...the left side leaked at the head and we couldn't get D3 gaskets for it. So we decided to hand-build a set with larger 1 7/8" primaries. Somewhere along the way, I installed a few new toys on the CarPC, replaced the meth pump with one rated for pure alcohol, and installed a Corvette 1/4" Thick Aluminum Ceramic Coated Tunnel Plate with Thermal-ABS.

Meanwhile, I went to Bloomington Gold to try and negotiate with Billy Boat for a discount on an XLR Fusion axle-back muffler system. Before I could, Mike Boat hands me a flyer of their show specials and the gears in my brain went haywire. Here was a 3" diameter X crossover midpipe and matching Z06 3" Fusion axle-back for $400 less than just the XLR axle-back. My headers hadn't been started yet, so there was plenty of time to make those with a 3" collector - easy. So my discussion with Mike was about Z06 vs XLR plumbing and mounting locations. He said he'd put them on the XLR fixture and make them work. He also said they'd fixture a brand new set at their facility and ship both free to the shop that would install them. GAME ON!

The install shop (who shall remain nameless) guaranteed me a price and schedule. They missed both. I actually got the manager to sign a contract, but when I picked up the car, the headers hadn't been ceramic coated and the printed bill was $600 more than the contract. I handed a copy of the contract to the manager and the agreed amount in cash and said "Have a nice day." He tried to explain why I should pay more and I told him tontake it up with my lawyer. I did tip the welder who made my headers, but I was standing there over them two days after the promised delivery date as they tightened down the last few nut and bolts. So I wasn't happy. PJ and I had just enough time to eat, pack, and get on the road to Artomobilia.

Needless to say, there were issues. I already knew it would be 1000-2000 miles before the exhaust tone would normalize and I needed to play nice for the first 500 miles for the initial break-in. I still revved it a few times at Artomobilia :reddevil. I think it was Eric who diagnosed my car with "Anger Management issues". :laugh::laugh: By the time I got home, I realized the vacuum system was never hooked up and smelling exhaust in the cabin I found one of the O2 sensor plugs had fallen out. The vacuum lines were easy enough to fix and the install shop made quick work of finding and installing a new plug.

Still, it was loud (those that know me know I like loud, so if I say its too loud - ITS LOUD.) After putting the car on a lift and doing some troubleshooting and comparing the BB Fusion bi-modal system with OEM, I came to the conclusion that the BB is spring loaded to the open position and the springs are so strong it never really closed (quiet mode) completely. I then proceeded to create a brace that I could manually insert between the spring valves to completely close the pass through ports. PJ had peace at last. Maybe with time the springs will stretch enough to close normally. So until then, my exhaust has three modes: full open, partial bi-modal, and full closed.

The trip to Effingham for Corvette FunFest was much better. Manually closing the center exhausts made for a drone-free trip. Mike Boat was there and we talked about the fit and finish of the install and we both realized (at about the same time) that my tips are round and I ordered ovals. We had a good laugh and agreed to work something out later. He noted the sound of the exhaust was louder than he expected when revved, but idle was just like his XLR specific system.

What's next? I have an appointment Oct 6th with a new tuner, James Short, out in Kentucky. He's a few hours closer than Wait4Me and comes highly recommended. We'll see. I'll be running his tune at the Texas Mile come 24-26 October. Probably a couple 1/4 mile runs. Then Thanksgiving in Louisiana.


Suffice to say, you are crazy about power Gizmo. :worship: Drive safe and have fun! ;)
 
Texas Mile Oct 2014

First run of the weekend - 165..6MPH!!!!!!!!!

WOOHOOO!!!

And there's at least another 10 in there!

The afternoon I played around trying to get a decent launch - insted of spinning the tires in both first and second. I think we got it figured out so tomorrow should be a good day.
 
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First run of the weekend - 165..6MPH!!!!!!!!!

WOOHOOO!!!

And there's at least another 10 in there!

The afternoon I played around trying to get a decent launch - insted of spinning the tires in both first and second. I think we got it figured out so tomorrow should be a good day.


Go Gizzy Go! :worship:
 
Elwood to the MAX..........


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"05 GRAND DADDY"
 
Go team Elwood


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First run of the weekend - 165..6MPH!!!!!!!!!

WOOHOOO!!!

And there's at least another 10 in there!

The afternoon I played around trying to get a decent launch - insted of spinning the tires in both first and second. I think we got it figured out so tomorrow should be a good day.

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Elwood sounded awesome[emoji4], no tire spin what did you run? Did you beat your 165 trail run?


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"05 GRAND DADDY"
 
TEXAS MILE 2014 Recap

Well that was an exciting weekend. Raced a bunch. Had some fun. Learned a lot. Still wanting more...

I won't hold you in suspense about the final results. 165.6MPH was the speed of my first run... and my best. The winds came up Friday afternoon - a direct headwind, and the weather was unusually HOT. Over 90% of those of us able to run first thing Friday morning, none could top that run. Conditions were great Friday morning and they sucked the rest of the weekend.


I made 10 passes down the runway. Five at over 160MPH. The first run on Saturday, I heard something pop so I got out of it and still managed to cross the line at over 150. The next run I forgot to engage "Performance Mode" so the 3/4 and 4/5 shifts were slow and the engine bogged down. My crew chief was so ****ed, he told me for the next run "roll into the throttle smooth and fast to keep the tires from spinning, when you hear the shift from 2nd to 3rd, nail your foot to the floor, close your eyes and ears and just hold on!" - I ran 161.2MPH. If that had been the same conditions as Friday morning, it would have been well over 168. Sunday racers were going home so some of us got to hot-lap. I made 5 passes on Sunday and could have done 2 more, but the track conditions weren't getting any better and I did have to drive 1100 miles to get home so we called it a day by 4PM.


This is what the grid looked like on Sunday morning (and this is with most of the racers packing up to go home).

I still had a good time. The people at the Mile: drivers, mechanics, admin, and spectators made this a memorable trip. For the V owners and guests, Bachelor Cadillac and the Texas V Club setup a dining tent serving breakfast and lunch every day just like the Cadillac Corral at Mid-Ohio. I ran into lots of old friends from Texas and other LSR venues and made quite a few new friends. As usual, we raced all day and partied most of the night. I am now an official Texas V Club member. And got another invite to Bonneville. Lots of folks wanted to know about Elwood, even more were cheering me on to try and break 170. My cousin from Houston even came out on Saturday to be my cheerleader.



Of course, every race is a learning experience. Where do I begin?
1. Never run the car through the gears at WOT without engaging Performance mode. Performance mode keeps the tranny pressure maxed out and the revs up through the shifts so the car just keeps pulling like a freight train.
2. The intake and exhaust need to be better matched. First my exhaust was the restriction, now the throttle body is the restriction. The motor breathes well, but to get more horsepower I need to increase the intake charge. I did test runs on Saturday with the exhaust fully open vs slightly closed and the boost level increased 2.2lbs with the exhaust partially closed. I guess I could leave it open and change the pulley, but that's going to require a retune.
3. Street tires cost me at least 3MPH. Since I drove the car down, I didn't bring my racing wheels and tires. My street tires basically had no grip after each morning run. Burnouts didn't help. And the heat of the day just made it worse. Next time, I'll have my tires sent down in advance and change them Thursday night.
4. The plastic push pins holding the front inner fenders can't handle this speed. The CTS-Vs had problems with their plastic undertray and inner fender wells at anything over 160 (four of them were damaged this weekend). Zip ties were the fix they used. I think I'll replace them with nuts and bolts. I also had to remove the plastic flap behind the upper grill and will have to design and install a replacement because it wasn't designed for my D3 intakes or the speeds.
5. My methanol nozzles are too small. Using the meth only at WOT with the boost I'm generating is evaporating the meth before it gets into the cylinders costing me power.The jets I have are great for hooning around on the street, but for long WOT runs all it adds is a little cooling and no HP.
6. I need to do some more aero tuning. At 160, fighting wind resistance is like trying to push through a brick wall. My lip splitter will help keep the nose down, but I've got to reduce the drag.

So I didn't hit 170MPH... YET. A couple more horsepower, some aero tuning, and a decent set of racing tires and I think I got this. Probably won't get back to Texas for a while so I've set my sights on the Chicago Half Mile next year. Now to remove my headers and get them ceramic coated before the winter sets in. Looks like I have a few mods to do for the winter.
 
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Glad you had a great weekend. Elwood Sounding good. maybe next yr you will be able to hit that 170 mark?
 

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