Help! LED Light Questions

[agwondra]

I know several people on the forum have switched out the factory bulbs for LEDs, and some have even posted the bulbs they used and posted picutures. All the bulbs are pretty easy to source except the DRLs. Thank you very much for sharing.

Has anyone switched out the 3757 bulbs for LEDs?

Does a regular 3157 Amber LED work?

Does it require a resistor to function properly?

If so, what is wattage and ohms of the resistor used?

I have been told by 2 LED suppliers that the switchback (white/amber) LED bulbs will not work in the XLR. Just wondering if anyone has been able to make them work. It seems like such an elegant option...white DRL and an amber turn signal when needed.

I know some have experienced the frazzeling of the DRLs by the hot bulbs, and I was wondering what you have done to correct the situation. I know this may be blasphemous since most of us try to keep the cars stock, but has anyone used the aftermarket DRL/Turn Signal LEDs? If so where did you mount them?

My apologies if this information is somewhere on the forum, I have been unable to find it.

Thanks for any assistance and sorry for the long post.
Al

 

[HOMEGAMEROOM]

I replaced mine a few years ago. Yes, I did need a resistor - I don't remember the wattage of it. My complaint is that my amber LED replacement (front DRL) isn't nearly as bright as the regular incandescent lamp (and I've tried a few different types of LEDs).

The socket for the DRL is a little odd - you may have to fiddle with the LED leads and/or base to get it working, but it isn't too difficult to figure it out.

PS I only fiddled with the LED lamp base and NOT the socket!! Good luck, and let us know if you find a nice bright amber LED!

 

[onalaska]

I put V-Leds 3157_92_WA2_5K in for the turn signal / DRL bulbs along with 6 ohm 50W 2 bulb resistors so the turn signals will function normally. The switchback feature does not work as the XLR only uses one filament of the 3757 bulb so I only have amber turn signals and amber DRLs like the factory bulb. Basically the XLR keeps a single filament of the amber bulb powered for the DRLs and then pulses it for a turn signal. I found that out after I bought the LEDs and also found out that the amber portion of these LEDs will burn out if they remain illuminated for any length of time so I definately would not recommend them for this application. They are very bright as turn signals. To work around this problem I turn the DRLs off everytime I start the car and just use them as turn signals. I plan on changing the sockets if I can find a dual filament socket and then wiring the 5K white portion of the LEDs to the parking lamp circuit so they will be on with the parking lamps. This would still require the DRL's to be turned off every time I start the car, but I am use to that.

 

[agwondra]

Thanks for the update and the information on the resistors required.

Has anyone found an LED that will work for the DRL function?

Does anyone know why the Cadi engineers would specify a dual element bulb and then use only one of them for the DRL/Turn Signal function in the car?

 

[agwondra]

LED Specs

Here is the information I have on LED replacements for the incandescents that come on the car.

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194<o></o>​

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2 <o></o>​

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194<o></o>​

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194<o></o>​

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1<o></o>​

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194<o></o>​

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194<o></o>​

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194<o></o>​

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3156<o></o>​

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2825LL <o></o>​

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3757<o></o>​

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3157<o></o>​

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3757<o></o>​

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Would like to add the information for the vanity mirrors if anyone has it I will update the list. I used 'forward facing' when I have all of the emitters on 1 side of the bulb opposite the base.

 

[XFireXLR]

I am in the process of ordering the switch back LED turn signal bulbs and I was assured that the bulbs will work in our cars, and if not I would get a full refund. Once I receive them and get them installed, I will post the results.

 

[agwondra]

I am in the process of ordering the switch back LED turn signal bulbs and I was assured that the bulbs will work in our cars, and if not I would get a full refund. Once I receive them and get them installed, I will post the results.

I think I may have figured out why the 'switch back' LED bulbs do not work with the XLR. I think both the DRL and Turn Signal use the same element of the bulb (the lo element). The control module energizes the element for the DRL function whenever the car is taken out of Park (unless the driver turns the DRL off). Whenever the Turn Signal function is engaged or the hazard flasher is engaged the control module periodically interrupts the DRL circuit and makes the single element flash. If the DRL is off by either driver choice or by having the headlights on, the control module energizes the circuit to make the bulbs flash as needed.

If I understand the 'switch back' bulb it is a standard dual element design (3157) with the lo circuit the 'white' set of LEDs and the hi circuit the 'amber' set of LEDs. The bulb has some form of limiter to turn off the white LEDs whenever the amber circuit is engaged. Since the XLR appears to use only 1/2 of the elements in the 3757 bulb the switch back will never know to activate the amber LEDs since the hi element does not appear to be used by the XLR circuitry. At least that is my theory on the operation.

 

[agwondra]

I had the XLR into the shop yesterday to change the differential fluid (rear end was slipping in tight turns). I decided to stop in the parts dept to find out what bulb was used in the vanity mirrors. I still want to replace mine w/LEDs. It appears that for all new Cadillacs starting with the XLR in 04 if a bulb burns out in the vanity mirror on the sun shade, the entire sun shade needs to be replaced. The bulbs are no longer intended to be a servicable item.

 

[jjsea55]

Hmmm, that's interesting... but not totally surprising. I've changed out all the other interior bulbs, but have practically decided that LEDs in the vanity mirror may be too bright for our tired eyes .

 

[agwondra]

Well I have completed the replacement of all incandescent lights w/LEDs. I used the chart I supplied to replace all interior and exterior bulbs with LEDs. I have also replaced the Fog Lights with H11 7.5w 6000K LEDs. They are as bright or brighter than the OEM bulbs and they now have the right color temp. I tried to add LED switchback LED strips at the bottom of the HL assembly but 2 sets of strips have proved to be defective w/portions of the LED strip not lighting. Perhaps in the future.

 

[MarkSki]

Well I have completed the replacement of all incandescent lights w/LEDs. I used the chart I supplied to replace all interior and exterior bulbs with LEDs. I have also replaced the Fog Lights with H11 7.5w 6000K LEDs. They are as bright or brighter than the OEM bulbs and they now have the right color temp. I tried to add LED switchback LED strips at the bottom of the HL assembly but 2 sets of strips have proved to be defective w/portions of the LED strip not lighting. Perhaps in the future.

I know that from reading an old message about LED bulbs that you changed out your fog lights with 6000K LEDs. Do you happen to remember what K value our OEM HID D1S headlight bulbs are?

 

[agwondra]

I know that from reading an old message about LED bulbs that you changed out your fog lights with 6000K LEDs. Do you happen to remember what K value our OEM HID D1S headlight bulbs are?

I believe the stock factory HIDs are 4300k, but it was possible to order other temperatures and mine came w/6000k HID bulbs.

 

[cubby558]

Not positive, but I believe they are around 4300k. I put 5000k HID fog light in and they are close, but you can tell the difference. The higher the kelvin, the more 'bluer' you get in to the spectrum.

I know that from reading an old message about LED bulbs that you changed out your fog lights with 6000K LEDs. Do you happen to remember what K value our OEM HID D1S headlight bulbs are?

 

[XFireXLR]

The OEM output is 4300k, anything above 6000k will give you a bluer hue and less visibility.

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[ECurtis]

How about some before and after pictures guys. They would be very much appreciated.

 

[rleonard]

HID Installation

I posted a lot of pictures on the HID fog lamp installation. Search for it.

Bob

 

[MarkSki]

Well I have completed the replacement of all incandescent lights w/LEDs. I used the chart I supplied to replace all interior and exterior bulbs with LEDs. I have also replaced the Fog Lights with H11 7.5w 6000K LEDs. They are as bright or brighter than the OEM bulbs and they now have the right color temp. I tried to add LED heswitchback LED strips at the bottom of the HL assembly but 2 sets of strips have proved to be defective w/portions of the LED strip not lighting. Perhaps in the future.

Where did you find the fog lights? Ive searched and can not find them.

 

[cubby558]

you can get them at ddmtuning.com the fog lights are 9145's. 35w works the best.

Where did you find the fog lights? Ive searched and can not find them.

 

[gamblingman]

Thank you for the chart, I am about to undergo an LED conversion. Cubby, I know you said you bought the 5000K and it was "close" for the foglamps, do you think the 6000K would be closer in color?
Also, my interior button lights are starting to burn out (on the dash above the start button), i haven't popped one off yet, does anyone know if are they replaceable with LED's?

 

[onalaska]

I'm thinking about removing my fog lights, replacing them with a black plate filling up the hole that is left and installing vertical LEDs similar to those the new CTS and ATS in/on the plate. Can't do much with the headlight assembly, but I don't use the fog lights anyway and that would give it an impressive front profile that I could turn on and off with the fog lamp switch.